An interview with prominent sociobiologist and futurist Rebecca Costa (www.rebeccacosta.com) , author of the much acclaimed book ‘The Watchman’s Rattle: Thinking Our Way Out of Extinction’. Praised by people such as Richard Branson, Donald Trump, former Senator Bill Bradley, scientist James Watson of Watson and Crick DNA fame and many others, the book claims that the world is getting much too complex, and obsolete thinking habits are preventing us from dealing properly with the complexity. Costa describes what the bad thinking habits are, which she calls ‘supermemes’, and describes an approach for solving our most pressing problems in an effective way. Martin Wasserman and Mei Lin Fung are the cohosts.